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31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:21 pm
by packerbacker180
I did something kind of spontaneous today. Or perhaps the devil made me do it.

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To start, my son was looking for a specific SpongeBob costume we saw at a Spirit a couple days ago that they didn't have his size. So yesterday I went to a few but again came up empty. Well, there was one more to check in nearby Dunkirk, NY, and normally I'd hesitate to make the 35 minute drive, but my wife's car was low on gas and since heading in that direction would take me past the Seneca Nation territory, where as I discussed previously in a post I will share next, you can often get gas for a lot less since they don't have to collect government taxes on sovereign land.

Now, if you've been following the Monster of the Day thread, you may've seen our discussion just a week ago about Pigmen and my post on Pigman's Bridge in Angola, NY. If not, here it is again:

packerbacker180 wrote:That's an odd story. There are actually a few Pigmen throughout the US and not all of them are in a political office! In fact, there's a local Pigman I was going to do sometime this year, and that time appears to be now. But this is a different kind of Pigman, and his story begins almost 100 years before he was said to haunt these woods of Angola, NY.

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On the morning of December 18, 1867, the New York Express left Cleveland's Union Depot at 6:40 a.m. and was due to arrive in Buffalo, New York, at 1:30 p.m. John D. Rockefeller planned to make the journey, but arrived a few minutes late. His baggage made it onto the train; he did not. That day the train consisted of four baggage cars, one second-class car and three first-class cars. Each wooden passenger car had a pot-bellied stove at each end to provide heat, and kerosene lamps for light. The train lost time on the journey. By the time it passed Angola, it was running two hours and forty-five minutes late, traveling rapidly to try to make up lost time.

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As the train neared the truss bridge over Big Sister Creek just east of Angola at 3:11, it ran over a frog (the crossing point of two rails). The front axle of the rear car was slightly bent, and the frog caused a wheel on the defective axle to jump off the track, derailing the rear car, which then swayed violently from side to side. The last car uncoupled from the train and plunged down into the icy gorge. The second-to-last car also derailed but made it to the other side of the gorge. Only one person was killed in this car while.the last car plunged 40 feet down the ice-covered slope to the gully bottom and came to a rest with a fearful crash. The passengers were thrown together at the end of the car onto the overturned stove. The stove from the other end of the car fell upon them and released hot coals. The carriage immediately caught fire, the fuel from the kerosene lamps fueling the flames. Only two people escaped alive from the carriage; some may have suffocated, but the majority were burned alive. Witnesses spoke of hearing the screams of those trapped inside lasting for five minutes.

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The closest road to access the accident was Holland Road, but in more recent years its been called Pigman Road. Pigman Road, in Angola, New York is known locally as a place of tragedy and despair. Many claim that the spirits of those who died there still roam the area, especially the Pigman Road Bridge. Holland Road gained its nickname, Pigman Road, from the legend of a local butcher who would place the heads of pigs on stakes along the street in the 1950s and 1960s to frighten trespassers. Legend has it that the same butcher shot a man and killed him then hung his body on a meat hook in his shop. In another local story it is said that the Pigman captured and murdered five young boys, cut their heads off and placed them on stakes along the bridge. The story goes that the Pigman was busy one evening working on some pig carcasses when some schoolboys started hanging around in the bushes outside his home watching and giggling to themselves. This location was even featured in the first episode of Hometown Horror on the Travel Channel in 2019 though sadly nothing of that episode was on YouTube.

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Pigman was enraged by the presence of the boys and killed them, placing their heads on stakes outside his property as a warning to anyone else who wanted to bother him. Locals believe the spirits of these victims still haunt the area surrounding Pigman road and their cries and screams of pain can still be heard on otherwise quiet evenings. And on some nights you can hear the squeals of the Pigman searching for his next victims.

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One day, a student from a nearby town decided to visit the haunted site. He went with a girl friend, hoping to impress her with his bravery. When they reached the bridge with a graffiti painted warning reading “Pigman raped me here,” they got out of the car and started walking the train tracks. Suddenly, they heard squealing noises, like those of a hungry pig, and turned around to find the cause of the sound. Except there was no one there, but they could hear the squealing still, so they ran for their car and sped away as fast as possible.

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“Pigman is more than just a ghost,” the student later said, “Pigman is real.”



Angola, NY is only about 15 minutes from me. We live just south of West Seneca on this map and Angola is the red star. I've driven through it many times on my way to the Seneca Nation gas stations just before Silver Creek where the fuel on their sovereign land is usually anywhere between $.30 to $1.00 cheaper because they do not have to charge state and county taxes, so it's often worth the drive to save money. Once at the height of covid, gas there was $.87 a gallon for a couple days! Today it's about $2.85 while local stations are closer to $3.30.

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But I've never gone in search of Pigman Road. Perhaps someday.

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So today, I was just a couple minutes away from the gas station and in Angola when I said to myself, "Self, I wonder where Holland RD is anyway?" So while I was filling up the tank (saving $.31 per gallon times a 15 gallon tank and a 2 gallon gas cannister--not the greatest savings but I was heading that way anyway) I googled Holland Rd and found it was only a couple minutes away.

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Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:30 pm
by packerbacker180
Ironically enough, the roads I took to get there, I crossed over several train tracks so I couldn't help but think of the Angola Horror while crossing over them.

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So as it turns out Holland Rd is actually pretty short There were a few houses on the road, but the area around the bridge is mostly woods on both ends. It was 11AM when I was there, but I can see how without lighting, and on a foggy night how this place would feel hauntingly eerie. But I saw no Pigmen today. The most interesting thing is that the actual Pigmen's Bridge is pretty small. It's only one lane to go both ways, and the direction I came from led to a bit of a curve as you came out from the bridge, so it's a bit of a tense moment as you kind of hope there isn't a car coming from the other direction. A little ways further down there's another, much newer looking bridge that is also so narrow only one vehicle can go through at a time from any direction. It's odd to think they built them that way because the road isn't overly narrow. I passed a truck after going through the bridge so there's room for two lanes. It's kind of weird they went that route with the second bridge.

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Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:36 pm
by packerbacker180
The road was actually short enough where I decided to turn around and try to get some better pictures. Not knowing what to expect during the first pass through I was more concerned about not getting into a head on collision or running into some neighbors or even a Pigman, and as you can see from the above pictures, the sun was in front of me in those first set of pics. So here's more from my second drive down Pigman's Road.

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Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:39 pm
by packerbacker180
You can see from the images how at night this probably has a completely different feel to it. There was a lot of graffiti inside but I didn't want to stop completely and didn't really see anything that referenced Pigman. There may be a small image of a PIgman in the one picture, but it's really hard to say. Most of it was faded and indiscernible.

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But that was it. My uneventful Halloween adventure in Angola, NY in search of the Pigman Bridge, Hope you enjoyed the images.

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Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:46 am
by BrandonDaCollector
That was a wonderful trip to see Packer, I didn't expect this nor did I expect anything to come from My Pigman post :shock: I hope others are following our Monster of the Day conversations. Even though you came up empty PeeBee, you were able to do that and checked it out. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury to do things like that :roll: I love that you did this, such a shame other don't do stuff like that see the mysteries for themselves. That's why so many things are still mysteries because of lack of desire & passion which clearly you have Packer :) You otta keep this Topic handy for more investigations like this PB, you might some day go to Point Pleaseant...boy I'd love to see that from you :shock: The was a great visual surprise here Packer for Halloween, have a Happy & Safe one:blbat: :blww: :blsm: :blmm: :blhal: :blbaf: :blaq:

Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:52 am
by packerbacker180
Happy Halloween! Yeah, this definitely wasn't planned but now my wife wants to go there so we might actually take adrive there at night one day. If we ever did I would add to this thread.

Epilogue: Here's the costume we put together. Spongebob head from Spirit $30, shirt and shirts he already had, and a Peely Fortnite bodysuit I got at a thrift store for $1!

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Re: 31 Days of Halloween: PeeBee's Big Adventure!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:03 am
by BrandonDaCollector
Well good, I'm your wife wants to do this too. Hopefully your kids will too because going out is so fun and besides, you can't find things if you're not looking for them. Imagine if more & more people would do this, I believe there would be less mysteries by now then again there would be fewer fun mysteries to look for & solve :blbat: